Yeah.

Like, we actually have been in the commercial industry and surrounded by creative, commercial creatives for like years now.

Um, and I think instinctively we kind of do something.

I mean, I'm not saying that what we do is always commercial, but we do have that lens and that feeling about our work.

Yeah.

No housework, no cooking, no seeing people.

You...

Yeah, it's interesting you were saying before, like, what things have you had to sacrifice to, to be an artist? And I've thought about this more and more recently as time seems to speed up, and I sort of feel like I've got less time-