And before that, when you were a child, what were you like growing up?

Well, it was so funny because of course you've now come on and guested on my show.

And so we had the opportunity to talk about your childhood and there was so many similarities.

It was like, my goodness, she could be talking about my childhood right here.

And so I'm sure much of what I share will be very familiar.

So I was raised by a single father.

My parents met when they were very, very young and I think both in their own way sort of escaping their upbringing in different ways.

Mm.