I'm following stuff on Facebook, but do you wanna explain to me and explain to any listeners what's the situation in Vietnam right now?

Well, I, I think, um, with any population, if you suddenly try and attempt to put them in a, in a, an immediate, uh, lockdown, there's gonna be a revolt.

People don't quite understand that, and in many cases, people don't really like being told what to do.

So there has been a gradual change and shift in the, in the guidance.

Um, originally it was, um, any, uh, establishments, whether they be hotels, restaurants, um, with 30 or more, um, were to close, and then a few days later, uh, almost a week later, that was reduced down to 20.

Um, I think certain problems arose from that because a few establishment just took some chairs out, uh, and went from a 30-seater to a 20-seater.

Um, so it, it, it kind of really beat the point of the object for social distancing.

The link is in the show notes.

Um, how big a breakthrough is this?

Well, it's a, it's a, it's a significant step on the way to what has been a major breakthrough in the treatment of cancer, which is pe-- mobilizing the body's immune system to fight the disease.

This drug's been around for a while now.

As you mentioned, Ian, it's the world's best-selling drug, around, uh, costing around, I think something like thirty-two billion dollars a year.

It's a major, major blockbuster drug.

But up until now, it's had to be administered, uh, intravenously, and that's a real faff.

It's a faff for the patients because you obviously have to go into a vein, you have to sit there for an hour or so and have this stuff pumped into your body.

So all in all, you think this could be fairly transformational?