into the Patriots.

See? And that's the difference.

And John's going to do good there.

And when he got to New England, I'll tell you this, New England, I went there, when I got there, we're doing OTAs and off-season workouts.

I'm like, oh, we're doing this running.

And in Baltimore, we're already hitting.

We got suspended for putting full pads on people, for shadow walking.

these Tennessee Titans?

Hey, the Rams,

like I said, they're giving up everything.

They don't have no first-rounders, so they got to do something.

But when you get a dominant player like that, and we knew something was going on.

Well, Miles wasn't happy a couple years ago before he got that extension and the contract.

Like, something's going on, and we're like, Soon later, it was going to happen.

It's just, where was it going to happen? I think that is a perfect fit.

Where does he fit best long-term, guard or tackle?

I'm beating this guy down"? Did you have moments like that, and then what did that feel like?

I had them all the time, and, and it's the, the feeling behind it...

So this is what I tell people, when you wanna feel how that is, you sit there and you look in the guy's eyes.

When you're on the line, you're looking at that person's eyes consistently, and all of a sudden you just see the eyes just dip, and you're just like, "Either, oh, he's giving up." And they're like, they be like, "No," then you start talking, like, "Hey, are you feeling that one? Are you okay?" They'll be like, "No, no, I'm good." Then all of a sudden they go over the pile a couple of times.

You just put that extra emphasis on it.

This is the old school of football.

If you're by the pile, you go over the pile.

How does that show up on film? When you watch film the next week, if you're on the wrong side of that, and you're the one who's had his will broken, how do the coaches handle that? What's it like to be that guy then, when everybody's watching it, and you have to re-watch it, and you're that guy?

So when you mention that you were in Cincinnati, and you were like, "Hey, I think I'm done," was it a play, a game, or at the end of season when you kind of had that moment of, yeah, I think this is it?

You know what? I tell people all the time, I won't be Frank frankly with Cincinnati.

[laughing] Yeah, uh, we'll b-...

I, I went to Cincinnati and I was like, "This is how y'all do it here?" They're like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Oh, okay." [laughs] I s- I, I get it.

[laughs] I'm like I, I've heard stuff and I, I never thought in my life I was gonna experience something like that ever again.

And coming from New England, look, the athlete is first in New England.

They make sure we are taken care of.

When did you feel like you actually arrived, and what was it that turned the page for you?

Let me ask you a few things about what's going around the league, because you spent time with the Bengals last season and you were released in November, you were there long enough to know, you were teammates with Trey Hendrickson, so where do you come out on his contractual stalemate there after he led the NFL in sacks last year, and he's got 35 over the past two years?

Well, you have to look at it.

He has to do what's best for his family.

Um, this happened to the child, he needs to understand where he's gonna raise his family and he needs to understand if it's, if, if it's in Ohio or if it's not in Ohio, and I think that's where the, the stalemate really is.

He wants to know what the future is for him and his family.

And again, remember, it, it's family football, so you have to understand like we get to play this game, it's amazing, but we're doing it for a reason.

What is our why? His why is what, his, his legacy, his why is his family, so he needs to understand where he's going to be.

So Lawrence, what about the AFC North, that now includes Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh, do you personally think that Aaron is enough of an upgrade at quarterback for this team to win his first playoff game since 2016?