So...

And when you're young, no attachment.

That was the life that you live by.

And that was really what really helped me grow.

And I said, the influences, we have other bosses.

Clearly, I see the logo of this company.

He's also one of my mentors, Jojo Malolas.

Be everywhere that in the end, the end game would be it's still going to be you anyway, right? But how did you educate the market that it can be done online? Or did that come naturally because you were everywhere anyway?