So you went to therapy at that point?

Yeah, a little bit, but I mean, it's offered to you.

It was, it was not, you know, it's not the widespread kind of, um, you know, uh, treatment that, that maybe you'd receive now.

But it was, you know, a very public disaster.

You know, things happened.

It, you know, it ripped our family apart in many ways.

So yeah, childhood trauma, you know, maybe there's still some, some hidden scars there.

Yeah