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Laurence Bergreen

Laurence Bergreen

American historian and biographer

Oct 13, 2026

3:18
Take it away, Lawrence.
3:20
[instrumental music plays] Hello.
3:25
My name is Laurence Bergreen, and I've written a book about Christopher Columbus, Columbus: The Four Voyages.
3:32
Of all the books I've written, I think this has been the most challenging and the most controversial because, uh, Columbus' reputation has been changing almost by the month.
3:44
He's a figure that we all know about, and he's been devalued almost beyond recognition, torn down from statues, discredited over and over as if it were the first time.
3:57
But as I discovered, the criticism of Columbus, intense criticism, was there almost at the beginning.
4:04
It seems to get rediscovered with each generation.

24 MINS LATER

28:14
Let's pick up where we last left off.
7:32
His father
7:33
was a In other words, a singer of sacred music in a synagogue.
7:38
Here again is Irving Berlin biographer Lawrence Burgreen.
7:42
But in the New World, his father had a difficult time finding work like that that paid and became a kosher butcher.
7:51
He was one of five children, Irving Berlin.
7:54
He grew up on the Lower East Side of New York City in a tenement.
7:59
His father died when he was young, and so from the time he was a teenager, because nobody was able to provide for the family, Berlin grew up on the streets.
8:56
Can you talk about how he worked?
Louis ArmstrongSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
31:10
The colors of the rainbow So pretty in the sky Are also on the faces And I think to myself.
32:00
To be able to say, after all he had been through, that it's a wonderful world, was really an extraordinary affirmation.
32:08
You know, as I encountered Louis, or talked to people about Louis, you didn't get a range of opinions.
32:13
You got one.
32:15
Louis was just a fantastic character.
32:24
I was skeptical to begin with, but he realized that he had this spirit that I'm talking about, which was really contagious.
32:33
I don't know of anybody who doesn't love Louis.

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Louis ArmstrongSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
40:53
And that was my kicks, you know, trying to blow that cat out of the wagon there.

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