
Lauren Wu
Attorney and privacy executive; former Chief Privacy Officer at Evidation Health, Roche, and Genomic Health; founder of Heart Led Leadership and board member of the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project (S.T.O.P.)
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Oct 16, 2026
The Leadership Lie - Why Playing by the Rules Doesn't Work with Lauren Wu | BWI #249
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Lauren WuGUEST
I will do that by giving you a very important story that happened to me, and I think that's the best way to describe it.

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I was a young associate in a law firm, and I was getting my first review, and that review, I was told, "Your work is impeccable.

Lauren WuGUEST
You smile too much." And I remember thinking to myself, "Well, how do I fix that? Do I smile less? Do I somehow become less happy?" And obviously, I was like, "No, I'm not gonna change myself to fit in this model.

Lauren WuGUEST
I'm sure it's very scary for many of your listeners to receive feedback and wonder, "Should I change myself to fit this mold of leadership that we're being sold that is often very patriarchal in nature?" And so I chose to dive deeper, and now I am internationally renowned as The Happy Lawyer, a lawyer that is often giving training in costume, whether that's Renaissance costume.
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The Power of the Pause with Lauren Wu
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Lauren WuGUEST
so, you know, I've had to really change my lifestyle and kind of grieve the person I was before and meet myself anew and welcome the person I am now and really accept what that looks like in a different way.

Lauren WuGUEST
And so to have to walk with a cane, to have to be on an anti-inflammatory diet, to have to do all sorts of crazy things, like where I'm wearing a nicotine recovery patch, which I'm not a smoker.

Lauren WuGUEST
I never have been a smoker, except for the occasional, you know, cigarette while I was young and foolish.

Kim GroshekHOST
I'm curious, today, how has this experience changed not only your health, but the work you're choosing to do in the world? Because I have a feeling this became much bigger than simply recovering.
Positive Career Decision Making During Pregnancy and Maternity Leave with Lauren Wu | Ep. 21
If you collect it, protect it: privacy and cybersecurity for nonprofits
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Lee WochnerHOST
But what about the level of scrutiny? I mean, what privacy and compliance risks come with using AI and what might you be able to do to mitigate those if you're a nonprofit in particular, where, you know, frequently understaffed, overworked, trying to heal the world and and and there are predators out there just trying to get access?

Lauren WuGUEST
AI is essential for for moving forward and scaling And frankly, and this is something I talk about when I give keynote speeches, AI is an accessibility tool.

Lauren WuGUEST
So for those nonprofits that also employ folks with disabilities, different abilities, neuro differences, AI can also be a way to kind of level the playing field across people and a way of ADA accommodation.
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Lee WochnerHOST
What questions should a nonprofit ask a vendor before feeding donor or client data into anything, an AI product or anything else? How do you, if you're installing a new platform you're working with, et cetera, what are the safeguards that you can erect to get started?

