So let's talk about those two.

Yeah, I think pivots are so important to talk about.

And I think sometimes founders see it as like a dirty word that like their first idea is not the perfect version that's going to scale and grow.

But honestly, it most likely is not going to be the perfect version.

You're going to have some kind of shift or change to your business.

And I think it's really important to pivot.

Be open to that type of change and focus really specifically on the problem you're trying to solve and not fall in love with your solution.

But you actually have a second pivot to talk about too, right? So like what happened for the second one?