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Lauren Oyler

Lauren Oyler

American author and critic

Oct 21, 2026

19:28
Right.
19:28
And this also, I think, had some problems with the sensors, even though by that time, like everything was pretty, was relaxing.
19:34
So I think that kind of explains it.
19:37
And I can offer some a minor amount of information on this because he as far as I know, there aren't really that many interviews with him, period, but not in English, certainly.
19:47
But there are a few in German that he did like towards the end of his life when Parallel Stories was translated into German.
19:54
In 2012, 2011 or something.
19:58
And he was talking like, you know, the interviewer was like asking him a lot about the Hungarian situation and Hungarian politics.
22:38
Yeah.
19:33
And it has been frankly, for a long time, because the recommendation algorithms are also a form of machine learning and so forth, much less sophisticated that LLMs, but It's been there for over a
19:44
decade.
19:45
No, no, no, since the 50s.
19:47
It's been in development for a long time.
19:49
The tendency to anthropomorphize and think that a machine has empathy for you is called the Eliza effect, which was coined in the 70s or something like this.
20:00
So even the idea of an AI therapist, which people are sort of up in arms about as well.
20:07
And I actually know people who use... to work out their problems with their girlfriend before they have a serious talk with their girlfriend, which I think is incredibly perverse.

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37:09
exploded and um there's so many more people now apparently trying to become writers and the bottleneck is the same as ever and much more streaming into it so it's likely going to become ever more difficult for the people who are serious about writing to even break through do you think that is the case
42:26
A tsunami of people helpfully told this dude that he had his head up his ass and the real reason millennials can't buy homes is not actually because they're spending all their money on avocado toast.
42:38
But because of raging income inequality and the subprime mortgage crisis and all the sort of economic stuff that has been pushed onto us from the older generations.
42:51
And while I agree with the structural critique of his statement, I also do feel like avocado toast is quite expensive.
43:00
And also it's something that you can make at home for very cheap.
43:04
And so I don't want to say I see where he's coming from because it's a stupid comment, but avocado toast is quite expensive.
43:13
I mean, like you can get it for like $13 at some places in New York.Which is more than I'm gonna spend on a piece of toast, shall we say? [laughs]
43:30
For Lauren, though, it's come to mean something more.
43:32
When I encounter avocado toast on a menu today, I always [laughs] have this sort of like pain, this feeling of yearning because like s- I, at least, still cannot justify ordering it in a restaurant, though I see people doing it all the time.

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