That wasn't your only experience with him, was it? Have you, have you worked with him before?

Uh, later on, I was out, um, in Malta because I have another amazingly talented makeup designer who I love very much.

She's Spanish.

Uh, and I worked with her on the Christine Keeler.

She was the makeup designer on that.

She said, do I want to come out and work with her in, um, the crowd room in Malta.

I was like, "Hell yeah." [laughs] So I went over there, and I was just doing all the stunts and the horsemen with her 'cause she was in charge of all the stunts.

Yeah.

thank you very much so from there we then moved into action and you had a very particular approach to your learning hub which was to divide it into two parts so Laura can you talk us through your first year project?

Yeah so because of when we got our funding it meant that we could actually start our whole project from September.

And schools obviously like to work within the school year and as a former teacher that worked really well with myself.

So we decided to split the project into two school years from September to September.

And what we did in the first year, the idea was to kind of work on a case study in the first year and then replicate that in the second year, but in a different location.

So we identified a group of schools from an area, like I said, that's really isolated.

They've worked together in some, they had some relationships there, but working with partners already known to the school.

So how has this work and learning impacted on the work of the diocese?

I began by asking Laura to tell me how the ECP started back in 1975.

We were founded by two migrant sex workers, and they were inspired by the French Prostitutes Collective, who occupied a church in Lyon against, um, uh, violence against sex workers, against mothers' poverty, and against criminalization of sex workers in Lyon and in France.

And they took over the church and, and occupied it, and they had an organization as well to campaign for what they wanted.

And so the two women here wanted to do the same.

Neither of them were English, but they were in England, so they called themselves the English Collective of Prostitutes based on the French Prostitutes Collective.

They went around lots of different women's groups trying to find support and, uh, help basically, and were turned away by many, and then finally found the Wages For Housework Campaign, um, who at the time were based in King's Cross, and met Selma James, who founded the Wages For Housework Campaign, who said, uh, "Yes, please, come and join us." And then that's how the ECP became an autonomous organization within the Wages For Housework Campaign.

So we had our own-campaigns, our own demands, our own goals, but we were also campaigning for wages for housework and for economic alternatives for women in particular, uh, so that we could leave prostitution or didn't have to go into it if we didn't want to.

Could you talk about what each of those are and why you lean towards one and not the other so much?