There was a lot, I guess, of wooden structures, so it was only, I guess, a matter of time before, you know, the one wooden structure burns and then the next one is gone with it.

Yeah, I mean, as we know, we are wood builders here in St. John's.

And like many disasters, I think the Great Fire here happened because it was a series of unfortunate events, a perfect storm, if you will.

So it was a particularly dry, hot July when the fire started here.

So we know that the fire broke out in a stable at the top of Carter's Hill.

And there was a water tank just a few meters away from where it started, but that tank was empty because there had been a routine fire checking drill with the volunteer firefighters, and they had forgotten to refill the tank.

And then the water pressure had been turned off earlier that day for the fire hydrants because they were laying pipes.

I mean, what happens to a city after something like that?

In those early days, in that sleepless hell of early parenthood while you were caring for Ellie, did... [sighs] How do I put this delicately? Did you come to resent her in any way?

Oh.

I'm like, I could...

This opens up such a big conversation because yes, I feel like [laughs] not just related to work, yeah, I, I, um, this leads to a few things for me.

So yeah, I, I found, I did find personally the start of motherhood very, very challenging and, you know, this is me as a, I'm a first-time mom.

I don't know what it feels like to be a second-time mom, although I hear, um, it feels a lot easier.

It's more of a logistics with two kids than one.

Is that what happened? Was that the experience?