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Laura McKowen

Laura McKowen

American writer

Jul 14, 2026

30:39
When it's over, she does it again, and again, until the train pulls into Boston.
30:46
I scrambled to get off that train, and I knew exactly what I had to do.
30:53
I grabbed the wine bottle, and I grabbed my bag and my Starbucks cup, and I ran through the, the crazy train station, you know, through people and the crowd and all that.
31:04
And I ran to this trash can, and I, like, threw the big, the [laughs] the full wine bottle into this trash can, and it made this enormous noise.
31:16
And I, like, in my mind, screamed, like, "F you," at this thing, you know? Like, oh my God.
31:28
I can't believe that this is, this has so much power over me.
31:35
Um, and at that moment, I was like, I, I gotta go back home.

16 MINS LATER

47:47
And very last, number nine.
42:32
It's the greening of the trees that really gets to me.
42:34
me.When all the shock of white and taffy, the world's baubles and trinkets leave the pavement strewn with the confetti of aftermath, the leaves come.
42:48
Patient, plotting, a green skin growing over whatever winter did to us, a return to the strange idea of continuous living despite the mess of us, the hurt, the empty.
43:04
"Fine then, I'll take it," the tree seems to say, a new slick leaf unfurling like a fist to an open palm.
43:14
"I'll take it all." [sighs] I know.

18 MINS LATER

61:44
[laughs]
61:44
Yeah.
61:45
So, um, she was up.
19:10
Right.
19:11
And I did in moments feel like that was a failure.
19:14
Like, "God, I haven't re-learned anything," or, "I'm hopeless.
19:17
It's just gonna keep happening." But I know what's truer is one, because of all the prior work that I had done, I was able to actually metabolize more of the hurt and the pain, and therefore absorb more of the healing and the lessons.
19:37
So I think it's this strange inverse where it's almost like the more capacity we have built, the more, the deeper our sorrow and our pain.
19:47
It's like it carves more out of us.
19:50
But then in that, you know the Kahlil Gibran, the deeper our sorrow, the more joy we can contain? I think the deeper the sorrow, the more healing and the more joy and the more capacity we then have for the next thing.
20:41
[laughs]

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