And do you think that's certainly more of you saying it's part of the curriculum now? Is that things that are, I suppose, in essence, drip fed in through the curriculum as you go on? So actually you do come out with a wider skill set than what you've gone in with?

Yeah, I mean, our courses are professions facing and, you know, it's about giving our students the opportunity to experience different work contexts.

And, you know, it's all you think about how you learn and develop.

It's about kind of pushing comfort zones.

and gaining exposure to experiences, whether that's part-time work, whether that's volunteering, whether that's actually listening to, I know you've done it yourself, you've come into the university and talked about your career pathway, it's about having role models.

You know, how can we build that into the curriculum? How can we look at assessment, authentic assessment in terms of, you know, can we get them to do pictures, for example, business pictures? We're building in kind of innovation challenges into the curriculum, bringing businesses in to set those challenges so that they've got some real world experience.

And, you know, across the curriculum, across all programmes, how can we and give the students exposure to that kind of learning that's going to really help them in their future career, whatever that looks like, you know, and experimenting.

Do businesses need to make more of an effort to prove their culture or show their culture, you know?