And look where you are now.

Yeah, so, I mean, yeah, I mean, that's basically right what you said.

It's like the thing was nothing was planned, you know.

I was collecting design pretty early on.

I was into vintage cars.

I had an old American, like 1950s Chevy when I was 18 years old.

So I always had a thing for these... for that period, you know, the 50s and 60s.

That coming about and bringing that to fruition had to be something amazing for you because this is something I'm sure being connected to the 50s and 60s, you were thinking, how in the world will I ever get this done? But yet you managed to pull it off because he could have said no.

For you, Lars, how did you go from, I like Jack, he's given me a great tour, to maybe we should record together?

So there was a post that Jack made somewhere on Instagram when he said, I'm interested to do a new record, but I don't know with which people.

And then for sure that immediately triggered me.

That clicked right away.

So that was also like this thing that Jack said at one point, maybe do some music again.

Maybe that was even not really like... something that you were really focusing on because i know you're actually not right you just threw it out there but uh yeah for sure then the thing was then we also he came by to the to the frank zappa studio when we did this um this event so i did the design for the frank zappa guest house for the music for the music studio and then when jack was in the studio you know he was singing actually he was trying checking out the you remember this jack you're yeah yeah yeah the sound of that studio because you have this like this there's like a like an echo room which is crazy right with a super high ceiling and then i thought it would be so fun to do a record you know to do record record something and then and i thought then jack pretty fast responded oh yeah sure let's do a record then i thought okay like an american yeah right let's do something right but then he actually started sending me music that he liked when he was a kid, you know, like these British bands like Susie and the Banshees and the Stranglers and that kind of stuff.

And then I sent him stuff back and then we talked about music and then let's do something.

made any albums or recordings over Zoom before?