Was some of it also a question of him going back and feeling different? that things could be different from his original, that he would want another crack at certain parts and aspects of it? Was he unhappy with it in any ways?

I think that Verdi...

So the astonishing thing about Macbeth for me is that it's so great...

And Verdi's so young and great philosophically and dramatically as well, right? The astonishing thing to me is that Verdi gets Shakespeare as brilliantly as he does when he's still in his 30s.

But there's no question that by the time he reaches his 50s, he's a greater composer.

He has matured over the course of two decades.

He's composed Rigoletto, La Traviata e il Trovatore, right? become the Verdi whom we know best over the course of those decades.

There's a really interesting point that you make about the costumes, that the Met seems to be sort of repurposing, recycling the costumes, not because they can't afford new ones, but to make, again, as you point out, a sort of political point almost.