What are some steps the state can take to help people after they're out of the prison system?

Well, first of all, we've worked on the parole.

We've had an issue in the state with the parolees, and it's part and parcel with the bigger picture of the whole problem.

But I'm going to come back to the recidivism because that's at the core of our problem.

The revolving door of offenders that are in prison, they get out, they reoffend, and they go right back in.

And that is the core of the problem.

And we can fix that if we do a better job of training the inmates when we have control over them and they're in our hands, in our system.

Are there further steps your office can take to improve public access, press access, and transparency of government? 90 seconds.

You can't wait for a three and a half minute response time.

Yeah, you know, it's kind of a broader... to the same subject, because that was one bill that I carried years ago, and it was trounced constitutional carry.

I carried that bill years ago, and we got it passed, and it ultimately was vetoed by the governor.

And every time it was...

this fear of the unknown about taking that step of what what kind of carnage it was going to lead to but you look back now we've we've got constitutional carry it was the first bill the uh noam roden administration first bill that christie signed So that was eight years ago.

Haven't heard a peep out of law enforcement as far as any issues that have come up with that, especially because they always use Sturgis Rally in my backyard as a prime example of why they couldn't do it.

My sheriff at the time, Ron Merwin, was one of the chief.

want but we'll find out tuesday yeah we'll find out who you're the opposite of that you have been i mean three two decades of of uh public service you're not a shiny come lately it's already cut you off jonathan

Throughout your conversations with law enforcement, the prison project, the task force now ongoing, what do you want to highlight of the things that you've learned for solutions that we might reasonably expect as things move on?

Well, it's been an interesting... 18 months, was a legislator for 16 years where you're one of 105 legislators.

And so it was a great proving ground to kind of hone your leadership skills because it's pretty hard to get things done when you're one of 105.

So you learn how to be influential and how to present an agenda.

Now as governor, I've kind of put... that to the test, and we've had a great deal of success.

I've got a great team behind me of good, sound-minded people of integrity, and they've worked very closely with me as far as building the relationships, working with the legislators, to answer their questions and find out what the concerns are and then look, not just tell them how we're going to do it and why it's better, but look for solutions to their problem, to their issues.

And the prison, prison deal was, was a classic example of that.

Let's go both.