But, yeah, she's doing fine, and I'll make sure I tell her you said hello, Larry.

Yeah, tell her I say hello.

Jamie, I don't know if you remember, or we told you, for John's 50th, Lorraine hired the band, and we played John's birthday party back in the day, and we had a blast, man.

Had a blast.

I'm really fired up about seeing how we come out and seeing how the season unfolds.

That's great.

Cause what I, what I think I've seen so far, man, class act, uh, you can tell the difference in, in, uh, I was telling Jamie the other day, you could tell the difference in, in the coaching philosophies and then the coaching atmosphere and all of that, man.

I, I think what Michigan's on to something now, man.

But how did that teaching or discipline, the difference in styles or whatever, make it so you taught me that way? Like what did you use from judo to teach me in wrestling, you know?

Sure.

Well, you know what was interesting is in the sport of judo, when you're on the national staff, at least back then, you had a certain area that you worked in.

And I worked with coaching development.

Mm-hmm.

And so I saw a lot.

I saw a lot of overbearing parents that would really push their kids to, you know, where I thought was far too hard at too young of an age.

Like, is there anything that you'd.