He says, "Question: Why do so many people overcomplicate leadership? Is it a misunderstanding of what leadership is? Are we just missing the point?"

Um, I think th- that's a good, that's a good point.

I think we can, you can put it as we're missing the point.

I think like anything else, leadership, and, and I'm on the board for FDIC and forest reviewing, um, classes.

I'm on the education committee, and I'm gonna tell you it is, you know, pretty saturated with, you know, leadership.

And, and so it's a very necessary topic.

I don't think it's a topic that should ever go away, but it can be a little saturated.

Louis, why did you insist that the bay door remain open?