And maybe also because we are going to get more into the staging of MMVD today, maybe you could also tie in there sort of what we mean when we say staging and our different stages.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I think the most important thing to understand it is As you've already alluded to, it's by far the most common heart disease we see in veterinary medicine, let alone small animal veterinary medicine.

So of the topics, this is the most pertinent just based on what you're going to see out there, particularly in small animal general practice.

Yeah, so other than just kind of establishing that it's common, I mean, obviously, I think, well, hopefully obvious to most people, it's more common in your middle age to older small breed dogs, but that doesn't exclude the large breed dogs.

That's something I often try to emphasize.

Large breed dogs can certainly get this disease as well.

Can you walk us through what the EPIC data showed us, why it was such a turning point, particularly when we talk about vetmedin or pimobendin and sort of what information we gain from that turning point? Yeah.