But it happens.

Well, you need to, you know, like, No, no, no, no. That's I mean, I'm sorry that that's happening to people.

That's bullshit and it's illegal.

And no, you do not have to be a member of the union to book a union job.

Matter of fact, one of the biggest annoyances in my career is and I could share a conversation with people.

i'll make this brief because we i don't say we actually do have to stay on time the i booked a job once that required a taft-hartley somebody booked it they came into audition they booked it they were non-union um maybe they were union eligible i don't know whatever it was sag eligible and they i i taft-hartley them and i remember i called i called into taft-hartley because in those days we did that and i got this like question they were like well what you know what was the work they did i go They auditioned.

Well, can you give us, you know, like references for their password? I'm like, no, I can't because I don't give a shit.

Yeah, they are.

But I can't imagine any other information that you as a casting director would find useful from a coach.

Not much, because if I'm asking for the read...

If I'm asking for the read, then I should see it.

And that's what it all boils down to is that, again, we've gotten to this point where auditions are not in person like they were.

And so you have this one invitation to make me love you when you send your audition.

That's it.

You get to send me one little file that says, this is what I've got to offer for this.

that's great.