Okay.

So what you said to me was she...

That there's basically rumors that the affair started six years ago.

He got married six years ago, then she had a kid, and she named that kid Mike.

And I said, "Wow, what a piece of shit."

Is it because he's a man?

I don't know, like, man, woman, whatever.

I think that, like, the things that she did seem to me to be more diabolical than the things that he did.