Walk us through maybe how you got that role and what you ended up doing because it's pretty fascinating.

So, I mean, more specifically, I've been in venture capital funding and trying to find funding for startup companies in New Zealand.

I think early on in my career, I noticed after a holiday actually to California that I stumbled across a startup conference that seemed much more exuberant than anything I'd seen back home.

noticed as well there was a whole lot more money sloshing around for companies that I thought weren't actually as credible or just as credible as those back home and came back thinking that capital was in short supply for good companies in New Zealand and saw that as both a challenge and an opportunity.

If someone, a good way to spend a career trying to solve a problem to you know, provide capital to the great Kiwi tech startups.

And yeah, I still believe to this day that, you know, New Zealand really punches above its weight.

And we can talk about different sectors of tech and examples of that.

I know every situation is a little bit different, but there's some sort of rules or guides you've landed on from that perspective.