
L. David Kingsley
Chief People Officer at Illumio, previously leading people functions at MuleSoft, Alteryx, Intercom, and Salesforce, and a Navy Reserve intelligence officer.
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Sep 15, 2026
How Illumio got its whole people team using AI
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L. David KingsleyGUEST
The half-solved for us, and we have a lot of these conversations about what is AI in the organization and in organizations more broadly, is there's now a tendency that I Produce something with AI very quickly, and I put it out to the world, right? My boss says, "Hey, I wanna see this thing," and that's 8:00 AM on a Monday.

L. David KingsleyGUEST
I was reading something recently somebody wrote on LinkedIn, which is my version of Instagram, and they said, "The amount of time it takes to consume a work product should never be more time than it took to produce it." So if it takes 30 minutes to read that document, but I produced it in five minutes using AI, I'm being disrespectful to my audience, and that really caught me when I read that.

L. David KingsleyGUEST
I thought, "That is really profound," because it's easy to produce a deliverable these days with AI, but then I'm expecting my audience to really spend time digesting it, understanding it, applying it, et cetera.

L. David KingsleyGUEST
If I weren't willing to spend the time on the front end, that's disrespectful to them as an audience or as a client or as a customer.

L. David KingsleyGUEST
And so one of the things that we're really talking with inside the people team right now is how do we help our workforce make sense of how do you use AI in a responsible way to get your work product started, to QA it, to amplify it, to accelerate it, and at the same time make sure that it's still yours? And I'm hypothesizing that at some point we're gonna have some type of ethical use thing that's gonna come where people are going to be asked, either really or figuratively, to basically sign this thing and say, "I produced this product using AI.
Episode 39: Building Trust and Driving Change as an HR Leader - with L. David Kingsley
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L. David KingsleyGUEST
And because you think about this really complex thing that's out on the ocean that has lots of wires and lots of explosive stuff on it, a spark can happen, and all of a sudden you've got a fire on your ship.

L. David KingsleyGUEST
So everybody in the Navy, every single person, officers to enlisted, we're all taught the first day of whether it's officer, candidate school, boot camp, you name it, to fight a fire and to put a fire out.
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Jess YuenHOST
Everybody's, like, scared about multiple year renewals at the moment, but like what are you keeping and what are you encouraging or experimenting with it being built via AI?
