TV show or something that we might have heard of? Yeah, dude, what

year? I'm trying to think what year that was, man, but we did...

we were on the today show with Al Roker and like this had, it was while I was playing bass.

So it was, it was a while ago, but we played this thing with like the Earl's of Leicester.

And that was like the first time I met like my bass hero of that time, which is like Barry Bales is like the man.

And he was so like, you know, encouraging to me at the time too.

And then I got to like meet Jerry for the first time and Sean camp was really cool.

Yeah, brother.