Um, Kylie, I reckon we might move on to you and, and hear about your words of wisdom.

Oh, right.

Well, I've, um, as you know, been looking at, uh, gelatin for years and years.

Um, because we're a bit cheap in Ipswich.

Much as I love your chicken breast, um, phantoms, and they are great, I do feel a bit bad spending that amount of money.

And, and as Aaron says, when you're traveling or traveling overseas, you can't take the chickens.

I mean, it's hard enough explaining why you have balloons with you, [laughs] empty balloons when you go to c- through customs.

Um, and so, so I think that's, uh, that's sort of the essence of ultrasound and, and our teaching anyway, isn't it?