So could you tell us a bit more about this black cab situation?

Yeah.

And I feel like it does actually marry quite a lot of things I've just said there, because you have to have this ability to drop everything, not really know why, and then just trust that it could hopefully get you somewhere.

And also all of those things you said about breathing, about posture, about communication skills, all these different things you learn at drama school.

And it's quite funny thinking back how they come out in the least expected fashion.

So I get a call after doing some presenting stuff and I'd been working, and I'm a massive Manchester City fan, but I've been working within football and especially on YouTube for a little bit of time.

And I'd been getting in touch with Manchester City.

How was it working on those shows?