With what Coach Kelsey said there about being hands-off on NIL, is that a norm or is that something

that you don't hear that often? I think it depends on what hands-on, what conversations you're talking about.

The behind-closed-doors conversations, I think every head coach in the country is very hands-on, and it's probably the final say.

As he alluded to there, in their staff, as you're talking about how much do we have to spend, what's the value? If we spend this much, can we...

complete our roster, right? I think roster management is a conversation that every head coach is heavily hands-on.

But I do think that there are several like him who believe it's awkward and can create a lot of awkwardness within your roster, within your team, within your relationships.

to have the money conversation between the head coach and the player or the family.

Can small schools keep their heads above water with this, and how's that going to play out for them?