20 years, how's it been, guys? Carl, you want to start off first?

Sure.

Yeah, we've been great, man.

We've been still in music for all these years, but doing other things, kind of helping other artists, a lot of writing and producing for other people, making music for films and TVs.

And just like we were obviously artists and musicians at heart.

So we never left.

But you never stopped.

How does it make you feel to know that Singapore never forgot the Click Five?

What do you think of this season? How did it go? Good, bad, ugly?

Uh, you know, I actually...

So I have mixed feelings, man.

Um, I, I like it because there's a lot of diversity.

Like, I would not be throwing a Carolina rig here had I had forward-facing, right? But there's certain fisheries that...

You know what? I think it's more of a mental game.

That's what it really comes down to.

Tell, tell me about this six-and-a-half pounder.

Yeah.

And so I think that's, that was my biggest hurdle this year was just, you know, being, going back to my normal self.

Like, I wasn't having as much fun.

I was stressed.

I was checking my pulse all the time, um, even on the water, like, during a tournament, right? That's, that's, that's a problem because fishing's a big time mental game, and if you're thinking about other things on the water, um- You know, that it, it, [laughs] it doesn't bode well for, for a, a bass fisherman.

And, uh, you know, that's, that's been a, you know, even to this day, still something, like, I've been trying to get out of my head-

Right.

I like that.

Because we haven't seen you have a tough season since you sh- joined the Elite Series.

Yeah.

I think that's good for me, too.

Like, I think, first of all, I talked about this with a couple of the guys in the Elite Series, like, I think, you know, there's two, there's two parts to this.

A, is the mental side of coming back from a heart d- a- a- and as everyone knows, like, the heart's no joke.

Like, it'd be one thing if I injured, like, s- you know, something where I was like, "Oh," like, you know, "I broke my leg.

I can't, I can't fish." Like, and then once it's better, it's better.

Do you know what it is?

What do you think that's key? How is he able to make those right decisions? Is it keeping his cool or is it his demeanor? What do you think?

I know that when I make like 90% of the time, or I would say 70% of the time when I make the right decision on the water, it's cause I've got like a limit that I'm pretty comfortable with.

Or like, I, you know, like mentally you have to really be sharp and not focused on like, Oh my God, it's 11 o'clock.

I don't have a fish, which is really easy to do for a lot of anglers.

But I think Jay's just, he just stays like, he's so calm.

almost to a fault at times, that he's just able to constantly do that no matter what the situation is.

I think that's what it is.

Was it luck or –

Like, what is your process? How did you even begin to manage this massive body of water?

Yeah, I mean, it's...

Look...

The result always looks a lot better than the practice, right? So, like, first things first is people...

Like, it's hard to explain to people until they maybe get in the boat with me.

Because a lot of it is kind of just my gut and, like, okay.

Like, Google Earth is...

Were these fish spawning? Were they pre-spawn fish? How were you getting