But the

juxtaposition of that of that character again at the end, like I, I respect those who wanted just big space punches and eight hours of that.

I don't.

why these characters live as long as they do and why they're so beloved fundamentally is about their characters and what the what we saw the emotional journey of this you don't get a conversation like okay so andy this is a relevant tangent what is the most talked about scene no no no it's not batman related at all what is the most talked about scene in superman 2025 Lowe's and Clark.

It's a conversation.

I wish I could have metaphorically been chewing on the scene of John and Noah in the car and John's entire life led him to that moment.

And metaphorically, right? Like Phoenix rising from the ashes and John's willpower taking over, no longer being afraid and seeing that thing that should absolutely terrify him.

Kyle?