Normally, the drive is 30 minutes.

One or two months later, I left the state, lived in Las Vegas for a little bit, and it was a thing where it's like I constantly would be thinking about pre-Campfire Paradise, and it...

Like, when I was away from the area, I thought about it all the time, had dreams about it.

And then I moved back, and I lived in Paradise for about a year, and it's almost like pre-Campfire Paradise is hard to access in my brain.

So nowadays, like, when I think about Paradise, it's always I think about post-fire Paradise, and it's a different place.

It's a, it's a very different place than what I grew up at.

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