did you have crazy hockey parents were there a lot of before school skating you know extra lessons was that part of the deal was it just fun with the friends out and like you know on the ponds but if you could and and and you also feel free to share what worked and what didn't work because as parents we don't necessarily know what gets through to our kids we might think but it's not necessarily what really gets through to them i know my kid is sick and tired of hearing me say hey dude let's go outside that bucket of pucks is looking pretty lonely buddy and he just said yeah yeah yeah yeah but anyway what was it like with your family growing up did you have siblings that played like what was that like

so so i'll i'll kind of take a few paths on this um so so i grew up with with a father that was very into the game uh that that that was personally a perfectionist and expected perfection so my car ride homes were very different than my children's car ride homes are uh, my car ride homes were, well, why wasn't this? And why wasn't that? Um, versus here's what you did great.

And did you have fun? Um, so for me as a parent, you know, I, I've, I've, you know, as much as, you know, I watch my kids, I'm like, gosh, I've got a laundry list of stuff for them to focus on.

Uh, that's not the conversation.

The conversation is, you know, Hey, did you have fun? What, what, what did you do best today? What do you want to work on from the game? And, and, and really getting them to give feedback rather than me giving open critique.

So, So, you know, it shaped me as a player.

But yeah, I knew that I was never going to be that parent that I had to deal with, you know, and I'm being open and honest about this, right? You know, I don't know if my dad will see this or not, but anyways, that'll be a fun conversation.

And I'm sure you can speak to this.