So I'd love to hear like what experiences or influence have, have most shaped the way that you lead or think about leadership.

It's been in phases.

I'd say the first phase of my life growing up in a very traditional Western canon was through a lot of media and how a man is supposed to be and how a man is supposed to lead.

And it was, you know, what we've come to learn is toxic and harmful and full of ways of bypassing doing hard work and learning how to soften.

So everything was kind of gearing you to being harder.

And I think that first wave was me attempting to become harder.

And as a way to protect myself, as a way to exude confidence, and just to have a feeling of like, I know what the hell is even going on, or that I have any control in any of this.

So I wonder, like, in this broader macro conversation, what is your sense, your feeling, your experience around what's actually real in relation to AI and what's coming?