
Kurtis Hewson
Co-founder of Jigsaw Learning; speaker, author, and education consultant specializing in collaborative response frameworks and school leadership.
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Aug 26, 2026
Collaborative Team Meetings: The Missing Piece with Kurtis Hewson – PMP515
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17:46Will ParkerHOST
And so take us to school for a few minutes, Curtis, because if I'm a listener and if I had to have a checklist of, of the most important things Curtis recognizes must be present for a team, for a group of people to work as a team, what should I be looking for?

Kurtis HewsonGUEST
Okay, I'm going to come at this from two approaches, one from a macro level and then from a micro level.

Kurtis HewsonGUEST
From a macro level, I think we have to look at what are four layers of collaboration that we want to see in each and every school.

Kurtis HewsonGUEST
And Will, I don't care if your school has five staff members in the building or 155.
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26:14Will ParkerHOST
Like what needs to be present for that to be a productive and effective collaboration?
190. Building Collaborative Schools with Kurtis Hewson of Jigsaw Learning
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Kurtis HewsonGUEST
So it's gonna sound like just a subtle shift in language, but it is massive in mindset, and I see this all the time.

Kurtis HewsonGUEST
When a school says, "Well, that's a tier two student," or, "That's a tier three student," we actually work off a four tier model, and it's not about adding one more thing on top of a traditional three tier.

Kurtis HewsonGUEST
What we're trying to do is we take that universal tier, tier one, and break it apart to discuss what are the things that we agree we will all do, the non-negotiables in our building, and then what are the things that we could do, the s- the differentiated strategies, interventions, and accommodations.

Kurtis HewsonGUEST
Nobody's saying you must do those things, but they're all things that we could consider before we ever look beyond the classroom.

Kurtis HewsonGUEST
And so sometimes when we say, "Well, that's a tier three student," it allows a, a teacher to be able to say, "Well, that's- that's beyond my pay grade," or, "Beyond my scope or my expertise.