Why do you think the stigma persists that the downtown is maybe, you know, fine for events, but not for just a regular night out downtown that they wouldn't choose it?

I feel the stigma exists because there's many people that don't live in downtown Winnipeg and view it as kind of a dead space that you just go there for work or you just go there for one certain thing and they don't spend a lot of time down there.

And I think that's been the perception for years in Winnipeg.

Our hope with Moulin Rouge is to invite those people down, that they see downtown through a Creative lens, what works for us is arts and cultural events.

That's what we do.

The more people there are downtown, the more safer they are.

Literally, our incident reports go down with a larger crowd.

Do you think physically we need to make any changes downtown to sort of promote that more? Like when you think about where you set up Nuit Blanche or how it's set up, is there something to be learned from that?