And I think, you know, one of the big questions, too, with a lot of things in cybersecurity, especially again, we're looking at the bulk of manufacturers being small to mid-sized, where do you start? [laughs] You know, uh, the, the agentic AI has a-- this tremendous opportunity to really answer a lot of those challenges we have from a manpower and expertise perspective, but what's the best place to start?

So we focus quite a lot on...

Like, if you look at sec- cybersecurity and risk as, uh, you know, you obviously have a bunch of technology that do prevention.

You have the firewalls, you have the MFAs.

You know, they are trying to prevent bad thing from happening in the place, right? But the reality is there is a lot of gray area.

There is a lot of activity that you have to permit in order to do normal business.

You have to let people click on links, download PDFs, right? But phishing attacks also come in through the same mechanism.

Maybe you can expand on that a little bit for, for those listening here now.