Just out of curiosity, how did that happen? Because you hear that neuroblastoma and you go, boy, I mean, does anybody survive that? So what caused him to survive?

Well, you know, we were, our situation, our story is really unusual.

And to make a long story short, there are basically two distinct types of neuroblastoma in One is very aggressive and you're right that metastatic stage four neuroblastoma, which is the scenario that most people find when they have a child diagnosed is very difficult to treat and to cure.

There's a second type of neuroblastoma that typically you see only in infants and It's biologically different and sometimes it can actually regress on its own without treatment.

With Brandon's case, it was very difficult for them to tell what type he had.

Obviously, we found it not because he was symptomatic, but on an ultrasound.

The only way to really know which type it was would have been to get the tumor out surgically and then look at it under a microscope.

Could you talk a little bit about that?