So is it safe to say that you don't buy into the hustle grind culture, you know, as far as like, I got to grind these first few years and then it'll be easy sailing? You know, what do you say to somebody that says that?

We're not made to do that constantly.

They were not human doings.

We're human beings.

We're not robots.

I'm a big believer in finding ways to function that are sustainable.

You might have times where you have some big deadline or a big project, and you might be putting in some long hours for a temporary period of time.

coaching engagement as closely as possible?