All that being said, Killina, I will mute for now and hand it over to you.

Thanks, Charlie.

I am so excited to be on the stage talk.

I think it's been a, a hot minute since I've last done a stage talk, uh, and these are always so fun.

So thanks for everyone for being here today, um, and thanks to my colleague Michael Wright for being here.

Um, I'll talk a little bit first before handing it over to him to, to talk about this because in true Bellingcat fashion, uh, this was an international, uh, investigation across time zones, uh, legal headaches, all sorts of stuff.

Um, nothing I ever do can ever just be easy and straightforward, I feel like.

I can defer to Colina f- there for the most part, but in the New Zealand sense, the same issue would apply in that, uh, uh, the people involved, the individuals would need to be in New Zealand or New Zealanders for the law here to be able to do anything about it.

Koltai started by describing the duality of the suspected owner of leaked BB.

I think he kind of is this guy who's been living this double life.

In Jitendra's case, he seemed to be a successful man.

He's got a family.

a partner and multiple kids.

He has a business.

He was a former pilot and now is a CEO or co-founder of a variety of different titles at the largest crypto startup payment system in New Zealand.

So Kalina, what is the strongest evidence that he is the likely owner?