That is your next step then, is it?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, um, I'm releasing kind of a, a crossbody bag, a tote bag, and a workwear jacket.

It's the same workwear jacket that you've probably seen me a thousand times in on my Instagram.

I've got, like, loads of them 'cause I've been testing it a lot.

And the idea, it's just your staples in your wardrobe.

What's a, a good gateway, um, thing to make?

And while we're on that subject then, what are your thoughts around the whole fast fashion thing? I know that's quite a big question because it's a huge topic, but have you got any particular thoughts or feelings around it?

I've got a lot of thoughts or feelings around it so you might have to stop me if I get on one.

I am a big advocate for slow fashion.

The issue with slow fashion though is it's not always accessible.

The reason why people go to Primark or now Timo and Sheen is because clothing is so cheap.

um and it does tend to look good um like for bodycon dresses like a lot of jersey dresses look good because that's what they're meant to do they won't last on though and that's that's what the issue is you're buying something it's not lasting long it's going to landfill or if you don't want to wear it you send it back and it doesn't actually get sent back it goes to landfill but then you've got the the dichotomy of if you've want to buy something slow fashion is often about 100 to 200 pounds and people just can't afford that like that's probably about a third of people's rent or half people's rent and it's just not achievable so as much as I'm against fast fashion it's It's all people can kind of afford.

And that's awful.

Would you have that same thought or experience?