Oh,

really? But it's like, and so that's, I mean, that's one thing.

I just feel like the people that want to do it are going to figure out ways to do it, to get stuff onto the system in a way that is illegal and whatever.

Yeah.

But that doesn't mean that all the systems should try to coexist.

And how do you incentivize How do you incentivize an AI musician to try to do it in the right way where it actually – they can see some benefit for them and the people they work for or the content that they generate? But the other thing – that i was thinking is uh with distro kid it's it's interesting that universal is suing distro kid like the largest the largest owner of all the things is like uh suing the largest independent distributor uh on the planet it's like um and trying to drag them through the mud.

But I also feel like there's so much music coming through the hands of DistroKid that it's like, how could you even begin to try to... uh, reign it in when it's so hard to detect and, or, you know, um, it's like, it's hard enough for a real artist to get an email back from DistroKid when something is wrong, you know, let alone, you know, a hundred thousand people doing things every day.

Yeah, I love that.

What you got?

I have a lot of thoughts.

Bring them.

It's good stuff.

It's good stuff to think about and talk about.

I think there are seasons where, as an artist, you just have to create.

You have to create more than you consume.

Were there any other thoughts that were floating around?

It's a little step in the right

direction until they get Well, what I love, I love that it's, like, you know, free market kind of supply and demand.

Like, the people, their demand is, like, we want – we don't want this.

We do want this.

And I think the fact that that was – that was able to be like communicated.

And then, uh, because of the, the fraud of the other stuff, it's like, okay, yeah, this makes sense.

Let's figure out a way.

There you go.

Kirk, how has your summer been? You and the family? How's everybody doing?

The summer's been pretty good.

It was pretty chill.

We kind of did a little beach thing at the beginning, and then we've just been hanging out at the house since then.

Yeah, it's been good.

It's brutally hot in Memphis, Tennessee in the summer.

It's just not fun.

So

That's awesome.

So he took the ambient class and went through it, and then he reached out with some sketches, and I was like, "This sounds, this sounds great.

This is beautiful." And it's called Life is Strange, which is funny because it's like, it's just, it was just very serendipitous, just the idea of like putting out this thing a couple years ago.

And for me to even put out a class was kind of, was really challenging because even before I started the ambient music as a career, I tried to do like the online education thing and it was like, it was just a battle.

It was really, really hard and I spent like months creating content and building courses and landing pages and backdoor email lists like...

And It did all right, but it wasn't, wasn't everything, uh, you know, whatever.

And so it was like there was...

Yeah

Yes, that was a big one.

And then I remember Quincy Jones doing an interview at a college or something.

It was like maybe a couple of years before he passed away, but he's like, I don't know if he was 98 or 96, how old he was, but he was like, he was in his nineties.

And he's like, this is still this, this, I still feel like I'm just getting started.

Like I'm just learning.

Like, and I'm like, okay.

all right, if Quincy can feel that way, like he's pushing himself into new things and he's learning things and he's doing things.

I was

It wasn't

safety goggles or a thing or standing.

And the thing was right between his legs.

It's him and his best friend.

And it exploded.

And the shrapnel, like... you know, mostly him hit most in like the inner of his legs.

And so, and then we had to take him as a whole thing.

You're right.