What did he tell you? Did he tell you where we were going, what we were doing?

No. Um, I knew it was combat.

Um, over Christmas break was, um, was rough.

Um, he, um, he got to, he, he got to...

Well, let me think.

Let me just take a little step back.

Um, Jeff being the oldest of, um, six at the time, um, he's also a protector, you know? He, um, some of the stories that I got back, um, and I'll, I'll bring it all back around, at his funeral, um, he was the guy, apparently he was the guy that waited for the paraplegic in the p- in the parking lot to make sure that the, the kid, um, he could carry his books to class, that Jeff would carry the kid's books so the kid wouldn't have to work so hard at it.

Right.