Every challenge is a lesson to be learned.

it was rung by rung.

It was, what do you do to get to the next level? But at a certain point, and especially as things evolve, you have to start thinking about what is the story you're crafting about how you contribute to whatever the particular situation is.

So I started thinking about it like that.

It wasn't about Functional skill sets, as much as it was about how do you contribute on a leadership level, you might have to negotiate.

You might have to have difficult conversations.

I needed to understand business.

Kim says companies who look beyond culture fit and expand their view now to culture add will have a more competitive edge in the future workplace.

From an HR perspective, from an operating perspective, what are you excited about with AI? And then what are we not maybe paying enough attention to?

Yeah.

Oh, I have many opinions on both of those.

I, I'm excited.

I'm excited first of all because I, again, going back to curiosity, um, this is something that did not exist to the, to the general population a few short years ago.

And when you look at the trajectory of, of those moments along the, the human existence where that has happened, this is the latest thing.

Um, the trepidation, of course, is on the government side.

What's the-- When you have an active investor in a business like private equity, is there anything different that you found around, around performance, around growth, around building a business when you have these more active private investors?