one reason why i connect with you on several different levels because i feel the same what kind of results have they had from the guesting you've helped them secure

yeah consistent results with podcast guesting see that it's very much a consistency game i know you and i can go on and on about this we've had conversations at length about this a common misconception and i don't even want to say misconception but we by human nature we just want fast results we want results yesterday we want roi yesterday And I'm always about full transparency that podcast guesting will yield the ROI you desire, but it's not something that happens overnight.

It is a consistency game.

You do have to keep going at it.

It's visibility.

It's putting yourself out there, building your authority and thought leadership and It does truly significantly compress the time for trust building, which is what lends itself to the ROI that it brings.

So it's not like you're going to...

Yeah.

I know

... like the one question that you wanna have na-nailed down, right? Especially when you're t-- referencing like an elevator pitch.

And I feel like that's such an answer that changes depending on the audience, [chuckles] which is such like case in point what we're talking about today.

But truly, right, that bird's eye view how I got into what I'm doing is a story of evolution.

So for me personally, my personal story really tremendously has impacted where my career has taken me, and I know a lot of the women that I work with too, that is also such the case for them.

Um, and so we can get into that more a little bit later.

But the long and short of it ultimately is I, I lost my father very unexpectedly seven years ago, and I'm an only child and losing him completely transformed my life tenfold, right? As you can imagine.

Mm-hmm.