If you have to force it, it's not going to work.

It's funny because I've been in sales for the past 30 plus years in every different aspect from advertising sales to sales for my own business.

And what I see over and over and what I shared with Alexandria is sales comes down to something really simple.

It's being confident with your message, being confident with what you're selling.

And if you are having those two things.

Sales should be pretty easy.

If you know what your price is, you know what you're selling.

Can you tell me about that?

No, this is like thousands of hours, developer hours, our frameworks, creating SOPs for everything we've ever built, thousands of sales and marketing calls, and it's something that once somebody experiences this, they're gonna be like, "This is what I need to use just for sales and marketing and growing my business."

Yeah, and one of the things that we, like so many clients come to us because they've been burned by other marketing agencies, and they've spent a fortune and had no ROI, and got what, what Alexandra and I call, like they got, they got sold a bill of goods.

And we were tired of hearing that, and we were tired of them spending hundreds of thousands of dollars and not getting results.

So we also wanted to come up with what's a way that's affordable for people to get sales and marketing messaging strategy on demand that isn't going to put them out of business, and it's gonna enable them to focus on their core genius.

And so that's really the catalyst, because we, we believe that small businesses, like we've said, is like the backbone and the future of our world if we want to grow, and we also were just seeing so many people get burned, and we're like, "We have to do something to fix this." And then really when we built this, it was what is everything that our agency does? We build out funnels.

We build out customer journeys.

We brainstorm pricing, new ideas, launches.

... hey, let's build something else