Kim Leadbeater

Also talked to a former footballer, Clarke Carlisle, uh, who was a very good player, played in the Premier League, not least with Burnley, but has several times tried to take his own life, sometimes in really brutal circumstances, but is now in good shape and is the chair of the UK's l- one of the leading mental health charities, Mind.

And then also, uh, and this will be our, our first interview when the series goes out, with Kim Leadbeater, who Rory and I have both interviewed on leading, uh, but who became an MP, not least because her own sister was murdered during the Brexit referendum.

But we've paired her up with a very, very close friend of mine called Lindsay Nicholson, who as I account in the book, has had more pain, grief, loss, suffering than most human beings could bear, and her account of how she has borne it is, uh, an important part of the book.

So I shall now shut up and let Rory take over.

Um, and so it was really, really hard, but I think that the, it's a combination.

It's interesting.

It's so interesting talking to Kim Leadbeater and, and Lindsay about how they get through sort of, you know, grief on an-

Yeah

Yeah, this is the House Mix, where we mix up someone from the House of Commons and someone from the House of Lords.

Uh, joining me this week and dancing along to the House Mix is, from the House of Commons, Kim Leadbeater, the Labour MP for Spen Valley.

Hello, Kim.

Hello there.

For the second time in less than a year, the British Parliament has voted down a bill that would have legalized euthanasia in England and Wales.

By an uncomfortably close vote of 286 to 270, the House of Commons rejected the appeal by Labor MP Lauren Edwards to renew an earlier proposal that was put forward by MP Kim Leadbeater.

Despite another defeat, these supporters of death, however, are unlikely to give up anytime soon.

In fact, after the recent vote, Edwards said, and I quote, "Assisted dying will come in this country as it's already doing all across the world, but not soon enough.

They don't give up.

Yeah, Lauren Edwards, who championed the bill this year, Kim Leadbeater, who brought it through the Commons last year, said exactly that within five minutes of the close of the debate.

They said, well, we'll regroup, we'll be back, and we'll have to be ready for that.

But we were glad to win it this time round.

The head of the NSPCC says she helped millions of children by founding Childline, while Age UK has called her a true inspiration.

She also pleaded with politicians to support Kim Leadbeater's assisted dying bill.

The Labour MP has been speaking to Times Radio.

She didn't want sympathy.