So how do you strike that balance in making it something that is more practical for a farmer to engage with?

I like to use some analogies to make it a bit more real world for people.

So if you're talking about complex science, you can put it in a language where people can understand and resonate with it a little bit easier.

But also I think it's a really important role in education.

I think we need to also respect farmers' knowledge that they currently have and also their ability and capacity to actually learn new words, new terminology and some of the science behind what it is that they are doing.

I know when I started 10, 15 years ago doing events like this and educating with farmers that mycorrhizal fungi, for example, really wasn't that much spoken about and understood.

I think out of the 250 people here, 249 of them would know what mycorrhizal fungi is and some of its sort of basic roles, even if they didn't know the in-depth science behind it.

Tell me a little bit more about that.