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Khaliden Nas

Khaliden Nas

Dr. Khaliden Nas is a writer and researcher with a PhD in media/culture, host of the podcast Referential, covering identity, Blackness, and queerness in pop culture.

Sep 1, 2026

240:07
As for his relationship with Monet, what do you think about them talking explicitly about Islam in a way that they have?
240:15
Yes.
240:15
No, I want that.
240:16
I want that in general.
240:16
I think I sent in a question during the Monet episode where I said, I want her talking about Islam in general.
240:22
I am interested in his reflections about his queer identity, specifically as it relates to Islam, specifically as it relates to his blackness and Islam at the same time, because I think there's a lot of shades that probably have contributed to him feeling very...
240:37
Look what you were saying.

21 MINS LATER

261:14
I'd love to hear both of your takes on this, because these are really questions for you guys.
53:31
Yeah.
53:32
And I think, like, maybe it's worth mentioning, like, another good thing about, like, why we're talking about this is because the two characters that ended up being shaped by Bennett, Gillian, Jiménez, and Hans, if we're going to think of them as, like, as to who they typify, ultimately end up typifying the people that Neil Gaiman abused.
53:48
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, correct.
53:50
Yeah.
53:50
So I was, like, trying to do some research for this episode.
53:52
I came across an article on Women Write About Comics by Zoe Tunnell about Angela and Sarah as the triumph of queer love and existence.
54:01
And like that just like it really hit me because like she's talking about them with such reverence and joy.

38 MINS LATER

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We were blessed.

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