So what has that looked like for your organization, particularly in these last 18 months to two years?

Well, for us doing, so I think you cited at the outset, Mara, is that we, the board made a commitment in the winter of 2025 to double our grant making, to double the line that was on the grants line of the budget.

And then they maintained that enhanced level of giving in 2026.

And I think are likely to maintain it or more or less maintain it in 2027.

So That was in a context where traditionally we have had a very disciplined spending policy.

We are a foundation whose founder said we are supposed to exist in perpetuity.

He didn't express a lot of donor intent back in 1934, very little, but he said that.

Kevin, what would you add?

Mm-hmm.

Those of us who have no federal contracts or grants or anything like that, I do think are in a position to stand firmer because speaking the truth is important.

Like it's important every day, it's important today, and we're in a somewhat more insulated position.

Where we're most vulnerable are on things like our tax status, right? A, a hostile administration could decide, well, any, any foundations that don't tow the party line are now gonna be subject to a 20% excise tax on your investment income or some, you know, really punitive, um, retaliatory measure like that.

Those kind of things are possible that haven't materialized yet.

So I think we're in a, we're in a stronger p- we foundations, that is, are in a stronger position to continue to speak the truth as we understand it, and to continue to speak from our values and from our mission and from our purpose in the world.

And in terms of the effect that can have on the ecosystem, which you were, you were probing around that, I think it's very important.

Mm-hmm.