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Kevin Shafer

Kevin Shafer

President of City Fund, an education nonprofit expanding access to high-quality public schools; former Chief Innovation Officer of Camden City School District.

Oct 7, 2026

4:05
Mm.
4:06
And, you know, amazing people in that system working hard for kids every single day, and the system wasn't working.
4:12
Didn't work for kids, didn't work for families, didn't work for the community.
4:15
And so we saw our job as really let's do two things.
4:18
Let's do everything we can to help improve the schools that are underneath us, and also let's recognize that turning this sort of Titanic around is gonna be really hard.
4:29
It's gonna take a really long time.
4:31
And, you know, superintendents don't last.

9 MINS LATER

13:38
But so, so how do you think about these issues now? I mean, is, is it a you're, you're trying to do both/and in a lot of these cities, or do you kind of pick one or the other? How's this go?

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